I don't buy it. This plan causes the CPU to downclock to 2.2 GHz and 0.95V or even lower (on my system it can sometimes hit a low of 0.2V). If you really have to change the RGB settings just install dragon center again, change to your desired RGB settings then uninstall it afterwards. Looks like you're using new Reddit on an old browser. do a cmos reset, then pull battery, then verify cpu temp in bios before and after. Since yesterday I seem to have the same issue, but my PC suddenly shut down and on reboot it said CPU overheated.. this has now happened several times. Low 50s on idle. CPU idle usage is between 1-3 % max. 4 all core gave a higher score. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Since I have a vertical mount 1080 TI I have not pulled cpu and cmos battery yet. In a screenshot shared on Reddit, Hallock showed that when twiddling its thumbs, a Ryzen 9 3900X can drop its voltages well below 0.4 V. Hi, Good tip on cfosspeed. I would lower your offset a little bit ( maybe at -0.0725 V) because in my opinion you are slightly reducing performance with -0.1 V, but don’t worry about voltage. Previously it had a ryzen 2600x with asus b450 and when in manual overclock it lowered the frequency and the voltage in idle. Hi! User account menu • [HELP] 3900x - Temps/Voltages check + Organizing HWINFO64. Then they run hot. 1.) I wonder if there's been an update in drivers or anything from windows that's messed it up. Description of Original Problem: CPU idle voltage draw between 1.38v to 1.4v. If removed, it seems to be reinstalled as soon as Dragon Master is opened again. I have c-state enabled. My board Crosshair VII was running the cpu (3900x) with 1,45V. Voltage is like 1.1v. Removing services like this will help increase your benchmarking performance - I get 30-50 more in Cinebench R20 when I strip all possible services from my 3900x. Troubleshooting: Hello! Now with 3700x with x570 in manual overclock this does not happen. Discussion. voltage spikes at 1.45 V or higher are absolutely normal with a 3900X. In Dragon Center (there's a section for drivers) and it was showing the AMD chipset drivers.. Napoleonic S . My AIO runs at 50% RPM normally so it keeps the temps down and my coolant temp around 25-26C with ambient around 21-22C. with AC on at 68 degrees outside with windows open with good air flow. The RGB options you chose usually are kept even after uninstalling it, atleast thats how it is with my MSI x570 Pro Carbon Wifi and Edge. So, if i were to just take #s from above, and enter 1.36 or whatever worked for others, i would most likely get a static voltage, and none of the power saves from having the voltage adapt to whats needed when a load is applied. Re: Voltage/clocks for idle 3900X 2020/06/21 03:19:13 bob16314 Just off the top of my head I'd say to set the Power Plan in Windows -> Control Panel -> … Never seen this before (it was usually max 85 celcius). Only CPU-Z and Ryzen Master (that's 1 complicated program). booted back to bios and my temps started climbing incredibly fast 40 50 60 70 80 90 +. By clicking OK, you consent to the use of cookies. Also, don't bother updating chipset drivers using dragon center, its usually out of date and may cause you problems down the line if it starts installing old drivers on top of new ones which I've actually seen happen with an older version of dragon center before. I just built and assembled a Ryzen 9 3900X system for myself - the first system I've built for myself from the ground up! This has basically been my experience w/ a 3900x as well. Hi Guys! Honestly I did a per ccx overclock and my idle temps stay way better because my vcore stays at 1.35 The idle on my 3900x stays around 60c on default it's really annoying. Ryzen 3xxx CPUs tend to run at veery high voltage even on idle. Not using Dragon Center or any other measuring applications in the back ground. idle. Reinstalled stock cooler. idle 39c max for 3 hours boot to windows and idle at 42 to 45 c @ 1-3 % cpu usage. Log In Sign Up. 40W idle is fine. You'd also thermally lock a 9900K with it, with similar - well, compute-wise, *much* worse - results. Under heavy load the 3900X can run at 1.1v with vdrop which is a great CPU. So with of these facts in mind, is something wrong with my cooler, should I repaste or is this normal behavior? It's not idle at all, always try to do something. nothing special here. I just want stability and I hope this will get it. I think I now have a clue for you all and why we are all seeing these strange high temps. SOP as it should be. It's a 145W 12c part, in no way at all comparable to a measly i5. Try Windows Balanced power plan, better Voltages and Temps at idle, without compromised benchmarks. Also see your BIOS settings. This website uses cookies. Okay great! Then the idle temp is all right. Edit: I know everything is fine if I leave the idle voltage at 1.4-1.5V. Ryzen 3900X Temperature and Voltage Problem in ide... Hi, Good tip on cfosspeed. If at all possible, download and install your drivers one at a time while constantly monitoring for any strange system behaviour, makes it easier to notice if a driver you just installed is causing you problems. Image 5 of 10. max temp recorded is 78.8c and I have done nothing but write this post. If current draw (and by logical extension, power draw) are low during these voltage/temperature spikes during low periods of activity (idle, or close to it), then the spikes are largely irrelevant. Image 6 of 10. Cinebench at 80° is not out of ordinary (on my system I reach 78°). When I turned it back on, CPU was stable, Voltage was stable, and with that the Fans were stable.. Also now as I'm typing this message, the PC is stable again.. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. reinstall it all and test please. What ever it is. What I don't understand is why this is happening now after 4-5 months of using it.. Ryzen Master, CPUZ, HWMonitor, the voltages were consistently staying above 1.4 and upto 1.5 while rarely dipping into the 1.3 range. Thanks a lot, I was just wondering because all the reviewers praised it for its low power consumption. I am going to bet every single person reporting these issues has done at least 1 cmos reset. The CPU is also doing it outside of the recording there was no difference there. Something is causing these cpu's to super heat after a cmos reset. I have just bought the Kraken X72 https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07B9HP5H6/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 as it was on offer and I've had my eyes on it for a while now. 7 Posts #2 • 2 mo ago. The Zen 2 IDLE is broken. Removing services like this will help increase your benchmarking performance - I get 30-50 more in Cinebench R20 when I strip all possible services from my 3900x. However sometimes out of nowhere it would go up to 95 degrees and at some point shut the pc down with the message, CPU overheating. But not THAT better as your old buddy i5. If your CPU pulls 180-200W AVX then you've enabled PBO and are overclocking. Untitled: Apr 12, 2020 3:44 PM.webm - Google Drive, https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07B9HP5H6/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1. But that really brings more power consumption and heat, which also leads to louder fan noise. I have a 3900x, 1080 Ti, and MSI B550 Gaming Carbon WiFi, 2x16 GB RAM 3200, Noctua-U14s CPU isn't overclocked manually, just PBO + XLR is on by … Press J to jump to the feed. But what does this 220W TDP of the noctua cooler mean? Now I am at 35 deg. No apps or games at all. do you see the voltage and frequency fluctuate? I had a problem with a h115i and found rocks in it. Unfortunately the fans going up and down all the time seems to be a norm now and affects a number of people depending on what board they use, only solution is to use an AIO which i highly recomend you do anyway cause the stock Prism cooler just isn't very good for the 3900x especially if you dont have or use regular AC in the room. Image 7 of 10. Okay, but Vcore and stuff is something that might be fixed in future BIOS updates, right? My 3900X idles between 38-48C and stays under 55-60C during most workloads. Boot to windows and I now idle at 75c. That seems very high to me, I come from an 45W i5, which obviously had a lot less power but IDLE'd at 5-10W. https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/cbls9g/the_final_word_on_idle_voltages_for_3rd_gen_ryzen/. I don't overclock it and the only program running is Dragon Center from MSI to change the RGB and the user scenario (which I guess is overclocking?). Most current benchmark/monitoring apps actually put enough load on the CPU to raise the cores from sleep / idle. Running an undervolt of 0.0750v-0.1000v only drops my max clockspeed by literally 50MHz but significantly reduces the voltage and heat running through the chip. no rocket science here. So 40W with a Noctua that results in 45°C is just the normal behaviour? reboot back to bios. again nothing special config wise. what about temps and voltage when you run cinebench? The Temps with my Noctua: At Idle (with the 40W) my temps never go below 45°C (Room Temp 21°C), is that okay? My friends TUF X570 3900X setup was the same high temps with high core voltage stock. it degraded so bad after 10 or so days it was unusable. Light load will be up to 1.58v depending on power plan and BIOS.I say 1.58v because it is the highest voltage I have seen.This high voltage is to get the high boost on cores.Highest boost I seen was 4750Mhz on 3800X Now as long as temperatures are within AMD limits ,I would say no problems and try not to let it bug … ClockTuner for Ryzen (CTR) 1.1 beta 7 ClockTuner for … Googling cfosspeed will give you more info if you need it. Image 3 of 10. I guess from the 14nm chiplet..? I still don't trust it 100% and have yet to test it with a game to see how it reacts. Bios needed a battery pull to clear microcode. Or you are. It's not idle at all, always try to do something. Like way too high. Set BIOS voltages to their default or Auto values, except those voltage domains that are adjusted by your memory's XMP profile; 4. keep your chipset software, Windows version (1903 recommended), and motherboard BIOS version up to date; and 5. don't worry if you don't see <0.5 V values, <1 V is the desired idle … I got myself a Noctua NH D15s and noticed two things which I hope you can help me out with. This is actually a 3rd party LAN/WAN manager that is installed as part of Dragon Master. And technically that is true, the cores when ideling pull like 0.1W so even twelve cores don't suck any power but the resulting package power is so much higher. But not THAT better as your old buddy i5. Tried all auto vs 4.0 g all core. I set it to be disabled on startup as it is not required (bloatware) and in fact may slow down your internet speed in some cases. I believe the cmos reset button process is broken. I've reinstalled windows 10, latest AMD chipset drivers, latest BIOS update from MSI and I just can't get rid of the problem. Re: Ryzen 3900X Temperature and Voltage Problem in idel Best solution is offset voltage from bios with value of -0.0125V and all heat problems will gone but the speed will stay about 3.799GH in bios idling I was hitting 115 c and alarms would go off. I lowered his to 1.25v as well and idle and load temps dropped significantly with the stock Wraith Prism. The site may not work properly if you don't, If you do not update your browser, we suggest you visit, Press J to jump to the feed. I've decided to publish the Windows power plan I use on my 3900X. Anyway, I installed those as well just to see if it made a difference and after, I wasn't using the PC for a bit and it went into sleep mode (windows balanced energy thing). Or you can say AMD has a different definition of IDLE than Intel. Auto-suggest helps you quickly narrow down your search results by suggesting possible matches as you type. After a few days of over clocking and testing limits I had to do a cmos reset by way of the cmos reset button on the back of the rear io. My 3900x was getting fairly low benchmark scores at stock settings, ~6700-6800 in Cinebench R20. Image 1 of 10. Can someone help me? I just got my 3900x today and installed it in an X570 Taichi running the newest stable bios: 1.40. CPU usage on core 1 & 2 shouldn't be that high at idle, my 3900x doesn't even go that high at idle even when I've got steam and other background processes running. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. reboot back to bios. Even right after startup temps were 50C in Bios with a Dark Rock 4 Pro. I have combed through the bios and there isnt anything out of order or set incorrectly. There is currently no cooler, not even ideal watercooling, on the market that would be able to deal with >200W 3900x unless you go exotic (chiller/LN2). I got my 3900X last week and it is awesome! https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/cbls9g/the_final_word_on_idle_voltages_for_3rd_gen_ryzen/ and, https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/cbbfce/3900x_being_overvolted_on_amd_ryzen_power_plans/etefuer/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app. Welcome to /r/AMD — the subreddit for all things AMD; come talk about Ryzen, Threadripper, EPYC, Navi, the next-gen consoles, news, rumours, show-off your build and more. user windows Balanced Power plan. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. Since a ton of people have complained about voltages, heat, etc. I would like someone that has a functional 3900x to pull the cpu and pull the cmos battery. windows updates all completed. /r/AMD is community run and does not represent AMD in any capacity unless specified. The computer was idle and no updates were being installed. every thing is set correctly. After changing it to Voltage Offset -0,200 the temperatures are now about 30C in Idle. Thanks. Thanks a lot, I'm pretty new to the AMD and high core count CPUs, but I love it - my CFD workstation is rocking! This is with my ac running and it's 68 degrees outside. When I got the replacements I did the default install and booted to bios set to auto and XMP to 3200 and set timing and voltages. I did notice something yesterday that has now stabilized the situation (for now). through everything under the sun and the kitchen sink....no effect. your idle temps are actually in line whith what your gonna get when using the stock prism cooler that came with the 3900x, also the clock speeds jumping up and down like that every second in cpuz is normal and if you look at RyzenMaster (which show you the avg clocks) it never really stays at a sustained 4ghz+ clocks for very long. Just a quick video of some of the issues that I faced when doing this build. And everything is still stable. Or you can say AMD has a different definition of IDLE than Intel. I can work around this by enabling Windows Power Saver Power Plan, but this doesn't really solve the issue and I need to switch power plans when I am gaming, updating, etc. I'm running all my fans on 60% (140mm 1000rpm) until 60°C after that it goes up to 100% at 80°C. Try Windows Balanced power plan, better Voltages and Temps at idle, without compromised benchmarks. NEW! Works fine functionally, but I noticed that in multiple programs, i.e. If I close iCUE the CPU idles as expected at 2.2 ghz, 0.8v, etc, but if I enter iCUE then I boost to 4.3 ghz, 1.45v, etc. Contaminated with lots of sandy stuff. After 1st assembly have not taken stock cooler off so thermal paste should also not be the reason. The best CPUs are not supposed to do that. tl;dr, the behavior you're describing is normal. 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