22, 119-126. I never said anything about a nanny dog. Another FACT for those looking for real information is Sturvite and Urate Stones can be medically treated and managed with diet and medication. A study of temperament. LOL! And don’t even begin to compare the nature vs nurture debate with dogs as being comparable. (source http://jalostus.kennelliitto.fi/frmTerveystilastot.aspx?R=153&Lang=en, with normalization of data done by me). and again, I agree that we should cross them a little to rid them of problems (I believe this with all breeds) If your point is that pure breeds need to have their gene pool widened then that should be an opinion across all breeds. Music Percept. Of course. Next up, Dogo Argentinos. She has some weird “stranger danger” issues but otherwise is a great protector and friend for my baby and the family. All dobermans are inbred to some extent, therefore all albino dobermans most certainly are. Like I also mentioned before there are LUA litters in many European countries by now, including 4 in Germany, thanks to the hard work that some of the US breeders have put in over the many years. It is also the first time in the whole discussion that I feel that we are coming close to the REAL issue here! These so-called “demyelinating” diseases most often manifest as progressive weakness and difficulty walking––usually in young dogs, though cats have been known to be affected as well. Dave recently posted..From Which He Flushed. She’s submissive grinning because she wants to re-establish that she is, in fact, submissive to you. Well, why don’t you claim to be perfecting the breed? Equally I could say (using stems from your logic) that border breeders are continuously breeding dogs with an incredibly high herding/working instinct and placing them into homes where all they do all day is obsess over balls and are so wired they’re climbing up the walls, snappy and unpredictable. Comp. When Dalmatians are born, they are completely white. I don’t abide passive aggressive bullshit from idiots. Moberg, G. P, and Wood, V. A. As Dalmatian breeders, we consider it an ethical – and moral – obligation to make every reasonable attempt to improve the health of our beloved Breed. And it kind of completes the line of rhyme. So right there we have humans displaying all possible combinations of base pairs which show marked differences in Gout. Mutt is not the insult you think it is. So darn you why are you not spending $2,524 to test that dog for Shar Pei fever?!?!?! I think people who misinterpret the smile to mean that the dog is HAPPY! NOT something to brag about. As has been stated, it comes with an increased risk of melanoma and that IS most certainly life threatening. This breed I tell you is the most interesting, most intelligent breed ever. Siamese cats are able to adapt well to their miswired visual systems (Guillery, 1974). Average lifespan has been between 12 and 15 years for most of these dogs. Not every Dalmatian will be deaf, some 70% are not, but that’s just the luck of the draw and 30% deafness is a disgrace! Bad bad decision that whould have been. Walk away in a hurry. Our hobby is breeding and showing DALMATIANS! They would still go after critters with gusto, which is what they were supposed to do, but didn’t fight with each other about it. They found that each copy of a T at rs2231142 in the ABCG2 gene was associated with 1.74 times the odds of gout. What genetic process causes this blood disorder? 9. Granted I’ve only had 6 litters in 22 years, I do take care in them. More on Trolling and the Truths of Internet Trolls. Wow, you must not own a dalmatian. No records for these types of issues were collected in the first 35 years of this so called “project”. Or stand in the way of others who want to do better. Variant-Waddler is a neurological mutant strain of mice that are hyperactive and deaf, and display an abnormal circling behavior. I still don’t think you understand the point. I’m beginning to think the opposite is true of you. And used him for stud! Where did you get the idea that this one little blog post was supposed to represent the entirety of evidence linking pigmentation to behavior? So good try on turning the tables. Brain mechanisms of emotion and emotional learning. Seems we should have learned something from all the mistakes one would believe. This transformation was quick and merciless. I also never stated that HUA or deafness are not a problem. calm? The problem with todays society is stereotyping and this man just took it off people and onto animals. Based on much of the above maybe the argument should be to do away with all dog breeders? In fact, they are one of the most loving breeds you can get with more personality than all the other breeds put together. The SNP is also very near to CHRNA5, one of several genes on chromosome 15 that encode the cellular receptors for nicotine. Transport of pigs. Dalmatians are energetic dogs who need much more exercise than a few walks. Her only threat is giving you too many kisses. We are both members of The Dalmatian Club of Southern New England and Holyoke Kennel Club. That’s unacceptable. I feel like many of the supposed behavioral issues have more to do with owners not understanding the breed(or dogs in general) and their needs. Lyn, are you really claiming that you have never had one bad temperament even though you have fostered “nearly 600” Dals? I’ll note that most people are unperceptive and ignorant and have no idea why dogs do what they do and most are so oblivious they don’t realize most of what happens between dogs BEFORE they start fighting. AKC will not last forever, not with their finances and their reputation in the toilet. Although there id definitely a connection between lack of pigment, particularly body spots, and sensorineural deafness, I have found none in temperament—at all. I have had some come this way that I suspected were well bred, that had been plucked, starving, off the street. You have very poor reasoning skills, don’t you? 21, 295-297. It might be acceptable in the cases of some questionable colors if there were one parent with a dominant gene that would result in all pups having a healthy color/pattern and if this could be tracked, but that would be more important for a breed where the unhealthy color or pattern has become far too common. Recent genetic tests have indicated that the Pekingese is one of the most ancient of all dog breeds, and this breed is credited to be influential in the development of other East Asian companion dogs? Because we certainly would have been sued to say the least. Because they’re not. With the advent of the LUA Dalmatians we will see more surgery being done for other types of stones along with cases that get a lot worse because a Vet wrongly prescribes Alopurinol for a Dal with Calcium Oxalate Stones thinking they are Uric Acid. retrieverman recently posted..I can’t have one of these dogs, My uncle calls it the “Honey Badger.” It is all so silly because all dogs are descended of a wolf-like ancestor that had genetic diversity. Dallys can be guard dogs, and I can tell you. THIS issue alone stands for many beginners who learn to be successful from a totally wrong angle. That’s responsible parenting. . The only web searches that come up with aggressive and co are .com (usually US) domains instead of .de or .co.uk. I was agreeing with you that something needs to be done to widen the gene pool -but you still persisted in arguing with me! I am an owner of a well bread dalmatian with a stable temperment. This does not cover the neurolgical deficits you discussed which may affect more than brain chemistry/temperament. The vast majority of them are still homozygous for the disease allele. Academic Press. Why don’t YOU look it up. http://www.border-wars.com/2013/07/dogs-dont-smile.html. Biol. Dr. Bannasch also developed a genetic test so we can determine if a puppy has one copy of this gene (heterozygous – has low uric acid, but can produce both low and high uric acid puppies) or two copies of this gene (homozygous – has low uric acid and all puppies produced will also have low uric acid). Experiments with animals: Introduction. I’m persistent on the facts. 400 $ and at the end of the day you would not know more than us Idiot’s that only test for one issue at the time but can at least be aware that the findings have a purpose and are accurate. The much maligned Dalmatian is certainly not perfect, but my own is not deaf, unless she chooses to ignore my commands, has had no urinary issues, and is not only a Canine Good Citizen certificate holder, but also a therapy dog at a local children’s hospital. No one chooses deafness over health. Who ever heard of anything so insane as a JRT standard. Others have written about this a lot. I can tell from a distance usually if he is going to react to another dog because if we see a dog approaching his entire body language will alter, he will become stiff and rigid, his ears cock forwards tail erect and whipping erratically, eyes totally fixated and glazed, he will sometimes begin stalking similar to a collie that is approaching sheep, then when a certain distance away he does not bare his teeth! Why not gather all the positive work that has been performed by numerous KC’s around the world and use the collided Data to move matters forward to the KC’s? There are currently 500 Genes in canine’s that are know to cause disease so the other 19.500 are totally irrelevant and not even a professional would be able to to anything with them. All purebreeds can suffer issues, are you saying border collies have no problems at all?? Anxiety begets anxiety and this leads to fear and aggression. Most people can’t even train an Lab or Golden (the “easiest” breeds), so of course they can’t figure out how to train a Dalmatian. Sarah lack of pigmentation in the wild generally spells death. It would seem Medicine has been reaching back more deeply into the patterns that govern and influence illness, as we have long known the importance and significant power of predetermined genetic state. Those of us who actually have an education can see so many flaws in the statements here that it defies reality. The biggest problem I had was a little stubbornness. 30% Deafness and 100% predisposition to urate stone disease is NOT HEALTHY. Unfortunately the absolute reeking stupidity of many of the members of the Dal club has poisoned the outcross well, NOT Christopher. The deafness figures come straight from the studies that are linked. http://journals.plos.org/plosgenetics/article?id=10.1371/journal.pgen.1002759 Mueller, H. C., and Parker, P. (1980). We are proud to be incorporating the LUA Dalmatians into our own Proctor Dalmatians breeding program. Neurophysiological effects of early sensory restriction. 489-507. But, if the total number of puppies born is 1000, you could choose to interpret the data as 100 out of 1000, instead of 100 out of 500. Four white feet, keep him to the end. Often the true answer can’t ever be found by oneself because a key piece of knowledge remains hidden. You are mistaken in your understanding of drift. Dalmatians in firehouses aren’t a recent phenomenon. For example, dairymen report that mostly white Holstein cows are more nervous and difficult to handle for milking compared to more pigmented cows. A huge step for The Dalmatian Club of America! The tail is fairly long and has a slight, upward curve. As a dog person you should be able to read this body language easily. renown = having fame. Here’s the thing: I don’t think the evidence that animals with white pigment. While the truest origins of the Dalmatian are a bit controversial, many experts agree this breed comes from a region previously called Dalmatia. Poodle Since you’ve spent over an hour and fifteen minutes on this blog and you’ve failed to read any other post besides this ONE Dalmatian post, who the hell do you think you are to assess who I am and how often I’ve talked about color traits and the problems associated with them in dog breeds. Price, E. 0. Behavior ofcattle in yards II. Behav. The domestication of evolution. The Victorians have a lot to answer for, most of it lodged within that ridiculous concept of “God IS an Englishman” and the rest of the world is, well, mutts. I had a 4.520 GPA, was a National Science Foundation Scholar, was a National Finalist in the American Chemical Society’s competition, was a member of the National Honor Society, Achieved Degree of Merit, Degree of Honor, Degree of Excellence, Degree of Distinction and Degree of Special Distinction with the National Forensic League, I was inducted into the Colorado Junior Academy of Science, I was the President of the Colorado Junior Classical League and runner up for President of the National Junior Classical League. No possible way. You do know that the picture you have is how most dalmatians greet their owner don’t you? The whole dog show thing is just like the figure skating world that I was involved with once. And while yes, there are horse people who are rightfully suspicious of white hooves that are not as sturdy as black hooves, I don’t think your interpretation is necessarily correct. So MAYBE if you could come up with some realistic and knowledgeable suggestions for us instead of slandering individuals you would actually make a difference and not just create opposition. When they have nothing to herd, they find something to herd, neighbors’ horses, cows, bikes, children walking to school, or cars. 62, 650-659. I have a JRT that is mostly white(except some on head) and she is the most gentle dog I have seen. And genetics is not a 100% guarantee of destiny. I will read further your posts, but I’m at work right now and my time is taken up with that, and focusing on this post. Wolves show a submissive “smile” by pulling their lips back, closed, in submission. You need to look at attack rates on a per population basis. The European kennel clubs, on the other hand, took the issue by the horns and wrangled. I think acknowledging there is a problem would better serve your breed. Your blog gives the impression that a breed with health issues is an abnormal thing. All of those “papers” didn’t do them any good when they are dumped like yesterday’s trash. I don’t care about your dog in specific, I’m speaking to BREED dispositions and BREED expression of disease and BREED temperament. The man would have come out of our back yard right where we were standing. And studied (but apparently didn’t earn a degree) at Stanford. He always came galloping up to greet me with a spectacular strong pounding true stride then passage in neat circles around me as though he had wings, snorting and looking sideways at me before bolting off to join the herd. That’s not authoritarian, YOUR position is authoritarian. I have Dalmatians I have two of them they are in perfect condition…. As far as health goes, do buy from a reputable breeder and inquire about the health of the parents. 26, 17-27. No, they’re all prone to it due to all of them having the same coat color which is linked with behavioral problems PLUS the general consensus that the breed has temperament issues. Genetic melanocytes multi task amino acids enemzes the building blocks of proteins in the body. Psychobiol. Among other idiotic old saws stated by Christopher, I owned that horse with four white stockings and he was my trail horse for 16 years. The confounding effects of genetic variables in early experience research: Can we ignore them? Of course puppies take their cues from their litter mates and their mother. One brief reference in Science by Minckler and Pease (1938) refers to a colony of albino rats living under feral conditions. Lifespan has too many variables. I have seen well spotted Dals with more pigmentation. But they are not monsters, like many other breeds they have their unique qualities and problems, but they are NOT just terrible genetic problems as put in this article. 1% suffer from allergies In the case of the Pointer, there was only 1 mating. The ABCA does not allow this. Sorry all I see here is somebody who will do EVERYTHING to achieve his mission but it scares me if that person has such ignorant views and will make statements that they know nothing about. You might find this link a real awakening. Frank, H., and Frank, M. G. (1982). Suffice to say, outside of the Paint and Cream horse color registries (and with Paints, the tobiano gene expresses rather dominantly — so you can get a fair amount of white without homozygosity; overo is recessive and they cannot be homozygous without risking lethal white), most horsepeople will breed a horse with a lot of white to something with not so much, so they sort of correct it out (excessive white is sort of not fashionable in certain horse circles). Gosh honey, you’re really dense aren’t you? There are, in fact, Dalmatians BAER tested at 8 weeks of age that later are found to be deaf. But it’s a very interesting hypothesis and despite the problem that we’re not likely to get human funded research into pigment vs. temperament for political reasons in humans, what little scholarship we do have for animals is open for debate and I think Grandin’s point is a solid place to start. >I would suspect if a movie was made called 101 Golden Retrievers following a popular childrens book etc, the same events would have occured…. They need regular opportunities to run and vent their energy and do interesting things. Then again, these are horses, not dogs, problems usually get culled a lot harder, and well they aren’t dogs. -weird. Wrong, we raised trained and hunted with Dalmatians when I grew up and the deaf pups that were placed and trained by u along with the owners training were some of the best hunters and sweetest dogs. Depigmentation of skin, hair, and eyes is genetically related to the development of the nervous system. Both weigh between 25 to 35 kgs. I don’t say otherwise. They do not have a white coat base color they are either black or liver. It’s magical. Real nice. But of course this has nothing to do with Dalmatians or this post. It is just another gene causing it in humans. I do not think that the author is “demonizing” Dalmatians, as some have claimed. 8, 507-525. Children can surprise a deaf dog. I’ll query google from the US and you from Europe. I currently own three LUA Dals who have been tested for almost everything a Dalmatian can acquire. 15, 137. Paradigm: the tree on which we hang our bits of knowledge. Hereditary diseases such as hemophilla A and B and a predisposition to colon polps, cancer and muscular dystrophy all relate to the inheritance by means of transposon. Santa said that one of the big problem was inbreeding. Of course this will only achieve defensive behavior from the people who love the breed and work hard to make it better. 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